Shin Megami Tensei How many of the main SMT games have you played?

Discussion in 'Shin Megami Tensei Series' started by Cemmos, Jan 16, 2015.

Out of the official English releases, which have you played?

  1. Shin Megami Tensei

    9 vote(s)
  2. Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne

    14 vote(s)
  3. Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey

    10 vote(s)
  4. Shin Megami Tensei IV

    11 vote(s)
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Uh are we playing the same game?
    If I recall correctly you first had to fuse Baal Zebub after beating the shit out of Beelzebub. Then you had to grind the shit out of Baal Zebub who eventually evolved in to Beelzebub (his fly form), and after you grind that too, you get that annoying but super OP Death Flies skill.
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  3. Fulmenel

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    Yes but i was grinding anyway so it didn't bother me and fusing him was really easy ESPECIALLY comparing to Metatron.Now that's a pain in the ass to fuse without a guide.I had to look it up.
  4. Hey now, super cool angel who is so blindly loyal to YHVH that he is basically a machine is much cooler than a literal fly.

    I'd fuse that shit any day of the week.
  5. Fulmenel

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    He is super useful but fusing him was a pain.
    And his looks are really bland imo.
  6. I think that's literally the point. My interpretation of him is that he is a machine because of how attached he is to YHVH. If you read the book of Enoch (irl), you'll find that it says Metatron has no mercy for humanity, and he only does what God wills. This is even stated in a lot of the games' compendiums.

    Metatron is an angel whose body is represented as a machine in SMT because of his lack of free will, his attachment to God in a literal sense. He is bland because he is mysterious, as in the Hebrew Bible you'll find next to nothing about him.

    Though, this is literally just an interpretation, but I do think there is some fridge brilliance behind the way he is.
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  7. only a fuseable angel lucifer could make it better

    btw isn´t Metatron supposed to be Enoch?
  8. Fulmenel

    Fulmenel Guest

    That wouldn't make sense tho
  9. It is said that he is in fact, Enoch.

    If I remember the verse correctly...
    "And so, Enoch stood in God's grace. His veins became fire, his eyebrows lightning, his blood fire sparks, as he went through a holy transformation, and was named Metatron."
  10. If you're talking about Lucifer, there are different interpretations of who Lucifer is.
    Some parts of the new and old testaments call him Satan himself. Some other parts differentiate them, saying that Lucifer is a fallen angel of monstrous power who fell to Earth, with Satan being someone else entirely.

    Lucifer is still called the Morning Star, bringer of light to mankind, and you should remember this, Theyallblow, Judeo-Christian Angels have free will, and even if they are fallen and corrupted, they are still called "parts of the Heavenly Host", meaning that they retain who they are. But they never achieve salvation and go back to being an angel, as they are technically "super intelligent", they know exactly what they're doing when they decide to sin, and they know the consequences, thus they fall knowing what they did, ready for everything about to happen.
    SMT Lucifer is something else though. He doesn't seem to be inherently evil in most games, he just wants God dead.

    If you're talking about Metatron being Enoch, go read the Book of Enoch.
  11. Ay master of tartarus, why did Atlus USA decide to make Mark a black kid in the localized version? What the hell was the point?